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Revelation 6 and 2
Comparison The Seven Seals
A side by side comparison of the
Ecclesial match up with the 7 seals.
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CLV Re 6:1 And I perceived when the
Lambkin [Jesus in all openings] opens
one out of the seven seals [Jesus
actually opened all of the seals for John so that he could write down
what he heard and saw. This is so that when these things occurred, his
disciples would be able to recognize them when they occur…we do not open
them per say but we recognize what is said]; and I hear one out
of the four living ones saying, as with a voice of thunder, "Come!"
[each of the first four churches under Russell,
Rutherford, Knorr and Franz represent the “living ones” who are all
anointed 1NC Saints – the “voice of thunder” has to do with Russell who
shares a position with Matthias and is part of this first seal – the
first four presidents of FDS3 did say “come” while they were the heads
of the JW’s who predicted the coming of Jesus and Armageddon up until
1975 when Franz submitted to the pressures of the governing body to stop
such speculation as it was detrimental to the church from a membership
(i.e. financial) standpoint. These four however all repented for their
acts as is demonstrated later. These are a new creation better than the
angels].
CLV Re 6:2 And I
(John) perceived, and lo! a white horse
[the church of Ephesus],
and he who is sitting on it [Russell]
has a bow, and to him was given a crown. And he came forth conquering
and that he should be conquering [Russell was
the First Elijah in the presence and did conquer and is now a 1NC Saint
in heaven – this seal is accomplished].
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CLV Re 2:1 "To the messenger
[Russell] of the ecclesia in
Ephesus write: `Now this He is saying Who is holding the seven
stars in His right hand, Who is walking in the midst of the seven golden
lampstands:
CLV Re 2:2 "I am aware of your acts, and
your toil, and your endurance, and that you can not bear evil men, and
you try those saying that they themselves are apostles, and they are
not, and you found them false [Those in
Christendom of Babylon];
CLV Re 2:3 and you have endurance, and
you bear because of My name, and are not wearied.
CLV Re 2:4 But I have against you that
you leave your first love [this happened early
when Russell’s first love which was pure bible study with the Millerist
Adventists during the time they jointly edited a religious journal
titled “Herald of the Morning”. This was soon replaced by the WT
Society “beast” rising out of the sea].
CLV Re 2:5 Remember, then, whence you
have fallen, and repent, and do the former acts
(go back to bible study with a pure heart and not a corporate heart).
Yet if not, I am coming to you, and shall be moving your lampstand out
of its place, if ever you should not be repenting
(which he did).
CLV Re 2:6 But this you have, that you
are hating the acts of the Nicolaitans, which I', also, am hating.
CLV Re 2:7 Who has an ear, let him hear
what the spirit is saying to the ecclesia’s. To the one who is
conquering, to him will I be granting to be eating out of the log of
life which is in the center of the paradise of God."' |
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CLV Re 6:3 And when It
[the Lambkin - Jesus] opens the
second seal, I (John) hear the
second living one saying, "Come!"
CLV Re 6:4 And forth came another horse
[the church of Smyrna],
fiery-red, and to him who is sitting on it
[Rutherford] was given to take peace out of the earth
[earth being the Watchtower administration
Rutherford did this when those appointed by Russell tried to wrestle
power from the head and give it to the body. These were purged by
Rutherford – see Note 1
below for historical details], and that they should be slaying
one another [there were many internal battles
in the bible tract society during this timeline again explained in
Note 1].
And a huge sword was given to him [this sword
being his extensive legal background as Russell’s chief legal advisor –
this seal is accomplished].
Note:1
According to instructions Russell left behind, his successor to
the presidency would share power with an editorial committee and with
the Watch Tower corporation's board of directors, whom Russell had
appointed "for life." But vice president Joseph Franklin ("Judge")
Rutherford soon set about concentrating all organizational authority in
his own hands. A skilled lawyer who had served as Russell's chief legal
advisor, he combined legal prowess with what opponents undoubtedly saw
as a Machiavellian approach to internal corporate politics. Thus he used
a loophole in their appointment to unseat the majority of the Watch
Tower directors without calling a membership vote. And he even had a
subordinate summon the police into the Society's Brooklyn headquarters
offices to break up their board meeting and evict them from the
premises. (Faith on the March by A. H. Macmillan, pp. 78-80)
After securing the headquarters complex and the church’s corporate
entities, Rutherford turned his attention to the rest of the
organization. By gradually replacing locally elected elders with his own
appointees, he managed to transform a loose collection of
semi-autonomous democratically-run congregations into a tight-knit
organizational machine run from his office. Some local congregations
broke away, forming such Russellite splinter groups as the Chicago Bible
Students, the Dawn Bible Students, and the
Laymen's Home Missionary Movement, all of which continue to this
day. But most Bible Students remained under his control, and Rutherford
renamed them "Jehovah's Witnesses" in 1931, to distinguish them from
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CLV Re 2:8 "And to the messenger
[Rutherford] of the ecclesia in
Smyrna write: `Now, this He is saying Who is the First and the
Last, Who became dead, and lives:
CLV Re 2:9 I am aware of your acts and
affliction and poverty (but you are rich) and the blasphemy out of those
saying that they themselves are Jews, and they are not, but are a
synagogue of Satan [Rutherford recognized what
the Watchtower Society had become and he used his extensive legal sword
to fight it].
CLV Re 2:10 Fear nothing that you are
about to be suffering. Lo! the Adversary is about to be casting some out
of you into jail that you may be tried [what
better way to take him out of the fight against the WTS], and you
will be having affliction ten days. Become faithful until death, and I
shall be giving you the crown of life
[which he did].
CLV Re 2:11 Who has an ear, let him hear
what the spirit is saying to the ecclesia’s. "The one who is conquering
may under no circumstances be injured by the second death."
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CLV Re 6:5 And when It
[the Lambkin] opens the third seal,
I hear the third living one saying, "Come!" And I perceived and lo! a
black horse [the church of Pergamum],
and he who is sitting on it [Knorr] has
a yoke in his hand [see
Note 2 below].
CLV Re 6:6 And I hear as it were a voice
in the midst of the four animals saying, "A choenix of wheat a denarius,
and three choenix of barley a denarius, and the oil and the wine you
should not be injuring [this also is explained
in Note 2
– this seal is accomplished].
Note:2
The yoke was a combination of
Knorr’s intensive training programs for proselytizing and the myriad of
pharisaical laws imposed by the WT beast to include restrictions placed
on what people could do with regard to their families, careers, and even
medical care (i.e. “blood” rules). They used the “time of the end”
campaign as a tool to control their flock more than “feed” them.
The choenix of wheat and three
for barley a denarius is about going door to door…it is the wages paid
for going out to do field service. Not harming the oil and the wine is
a warning to Knorr. The horse being “black” coincides with the church
of Pergamum being where the throne of Satan is (the WT itself who is the
seat of Moses in Pharisaical terms).
During Knorr’s headship in
1975/6 changes took place at Watchtower headquarters in regard to
presidential power. First it became accepted in theory that the true
Christian Church should not be under one-man rule, but rather should be
governed by a body similar to the twelve apostles. The 7-member board of
directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania had
previously been portrayed as fulfilling this role, but in 1971 an
expanded Governing Body was created with a total of eleven members,
including the seven Directors. The aim was to demonstrate that the
leadership derived authority from an apostolic source, rather than from
Pennsylvania corporate law (i.e. the Watchtower).
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CLV Re 2:12 "And
to the messenger of the ecclesia in Pergamum
[Knorr]
write: `Now this He is saying Who has the sharp two-edged blade:
CLV Re 2:13 I am aware where you
are dwelling where ever the throne of Satan is and you are
holding My name, and do not disown My faith in the days in which
Antipas, My faithful witness, which was killed among you, where ever
Satan is dwelling [the WTS Beast].
CLV Re 2:14 But I have a few things
against you, that you have there those holding the teaching of Balaam,
who taught Balak to cast a snare before the sons of Israel, to be eating
idol sacrifices, and to commit prostitution.
CLV Re 2:15 Thus you', also, have those
holding the teaching of the Nicolaitans, likewise.
CLV Re 2:16 Repent then
[which he did]! Yet if not, I am coming
to you swiftly and shall be battling with them with the blade of My
mouth.
CLV Re 2:17 Who has an ear, let him hear
what the spirit is saying to the ecclesia’s. To the one who is
conquering, to him will I be giving out of the hidden manna, and I shall
be giving him a white pebble and on the pebble a new name written, of
which not one is aware except the one who is obtaining it."'
This new Governing Body was
displayed as further evidence of the church being the one true church,
but in actuality Nathan Knorr continued to rule Jehovah's Witnesses
much as Russell and Rutherford had done before him.
Governing Body members began insisting on exercising the powers
granted to them in theory but that had never really been theirs in
practice. Over the objections of Fred Franz the Body that he had been
instrumental in creating actually began governing, so that when Nathan
Knorr passed away in 1977 Franz inherited an emasculated presidency. |
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CLV Re 6:7 And when It opens the
fourth seal, I hear the voice of the fourth living one saying,
"Come!"
CLV Re 6:8 And I perceived, and lo! a
greenish horse [the church of Thyatira],
and the name of him who is sitting upon it is Death
[the one sitting on the horse is the governing
body since Franz inherited this arrangement - these are all unfaithful
saints who are judicially dead], and the Unseen followed him. And
jurisdiction was given them over the fourth of the earth, to kill with
the blade and with famine and with death [see
Re 2:23] and by the wild beasts of the earth
[during the time of Thyatira a great purge took
place as a result of the membership losses due to earlier failed
predictions of Armageddon – see Note 3
below – this seal has been accomplished].
Note 3
Note 3 - When membership loss
grew into the hundreds of thousands-a fact masked by new conversions in
figures released by the Society, but reported in an investigative
article in the Los Angeles Times of January 30, 1982 (pp. 4-5)-president
Franz and the conservative majority on the Governing Body took action.
In the spring of 1980 they initiated a crack-down on dissidents,
breaking up the independent Bible study groups at headquarters, and
forming "judicial committees" to have those seen as ringleaders put on
trial for "disloyalty" and "apostasy."
- this is how they
effectively “killed” in Rev 6:8
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CLV Re 2:18 "And to the messenger of the
ecclesia in Thyatira [Franz]
write: `Now this the Son of God is saying, Who has His eyes as a flame
of fire, and His feet like white bronze:
CLV Re 2:19 I am aware of your acts and
love and faith and service and your endurance, and your last acts are
more than the former. [Franz not only objected
to the power and authority going to the governing body but also worked
hard to restore faith in the chronological understandings of the church]
CLV Re 2:20 But I have much against you,
seeing that you pardon that woman of yours, Jezebel
[Franz put up with what he disagreed with
regard to the unfaithful saints who were an integral part of the
governing body in the WT beast at the time], who says that she is
a prophetess, and is teaching and deceiving My slaves
[the faithful saints in the JW’s] so as
to commit prostitution and to be eating idol sacrifices
[i.e. worship of the GB as the head of the
church].
CLV Re 2:21 And I give her time that she
should be repenting, and she is not willing to repent out of her
prostitution.
CLV Re 2:22 Lo! I will cast her into a
couch, and those committing adultery with her into great affliction, if
ever they will not be repenting out of her acts.
CLV Re 2:23 And her children shall
I be killing with death [just as the fourth
horse and its rider are described to do in Rev 6:8], and all the
ecclesia’s shall know that I' am He Who is searching the kidneys and
hearts. And I will be giving to each of you in accord with your acts.
CLV Re 2:25 Moreover, what you have
[faith], hold until that time whenever I
should be arriving.
CLV Re 2:26 And
to the one who is conquering and keeping My acts until the
consummation, to him will I be giving authority over the nations;
CLV Re 2:27 and he shall be shepherding
them with an iron club, as vessels of pottery are being crushed, as I'
also have obtained from My Father.
CLV Re 2:28 And I will give him the
morning star.
CLV Re 2:29 Who has an ear, let him hear
what the spirit is saying to the ecclesia’s.' |
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CLV Re 6:9 And when It opens the
fifth seal, I perceived underneath the altar the souls of those
who have been slain because of the word of God and because of the
testimony which they had [no “living one”
saying “come” during this seal and in fact the WT had quit speculating
as to when Jesus would come as the generation of those who would not
pass away being a physical manifestation of those in the anointed class
of the church instead of a spiritual manifestation of all those in the
JAC who are part of the “born again” generation (so the reserves would
also apply). This is ironic in one way since Jesus actually did come
during this watch to appoint a new head [Gordon] to feed his flock at
the proper time (see Rev 3:3)
– also no mention of a horse or a rider because there is no change in
either when this seal is opened since the beast continues to run the WT
after this].
CLV Re 6:10 And they
[those who were disfellowshipped for their
testimony] cry with a loud voice, saying, "Till when, O Owner,
holy and true, art Thou not judging and avenging our blood on those
dwelling on the earth [those on the payroll of
the Watchtower Society who have effectively killed all of those they
have disfellowshipped for their testimony to Jesus]?"
CLV Re 6:11 And to
each of them was given a white robe
[see
Rev 3:4],
and it was declared to them that they should be resting
still a
little time, till their number should be completed by
their fellow slaves also, and their brethren, who are about to be killed
even as they were
[this white robe is either
given through baptism into FDS4 or from Jesus directly for their faith
and endurance under the pharisaical rule of the WT until their “death”].
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CLV Re 3:1 "And to the messenger of the
ecclesia in Sardis [Henschel]
write: `Now this He is saying Who has the seven spirits of God and the
seven stars: "I am aware of your acts, that you have a name that you are
living [so he must have been a 1NC reserve],
and are dead [lost his spirit baptism due to
idolatry].
CLV Re 3:2 Become watchful, and establish
the rest who were about to be dying [those
mentioned in the fifth seal (Rev 6:11)]; for I have
not found your acts completed in the sight of My God
[he was not yet sealed in holy spirit].
CLV Re 3:3
Remember, then, how you have obtained [his
anointing and his understanding], and hear
[what FDS4 is telling you]; keep it and
repent [which he must not have done before he
died in Mar 2003 13Adarll2002 as only the first four are “living” and
there were only seven messengers standing before God preparing to blow
their trumpets – see Rev 8:2]. If ever, then, you should
not be watching [which he was not], I
shall be arriving on you as a thief [which He
did], and under no circumstances will you be knowing what hour I
shall be arriving on you [Jesus did arrive as a
thief and appointed the mediator of the 2NC whom Henschel did not listen
to].
CLV Re 3:4
But you have a few names in Sardis which do not pollute their garments,
and they shall walk with Me in white [robes -
see Rev 6:11], for they are worthy [the
faithful in the JAC, ICC, and 1AC hence “names” plural.
CLV Re 3:5 "The one who is conquering, he
shall be clothed in white garments, and under no circumstances will I be
blotting his name from the scroll of life
[disfellowshipping him out of the JAC], and I will be avowing his
name in front of My Father and sight before His messengers.
CLV Re 3:6 Who has an ear, let him hear
what the spirit is saying to the ecclesia’s."' |
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CLV Re 6:12 And I perceived, when It
[the Lambkin] opens the sixth seal
[if these are correct it would seem the events
of this seal began in Elul of 2004), and a great cataclysm
occurred [the heavens were shaken when FDS4 was
appointed as the only true church and FDS3 became the good for nothing
slave], and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair
[see Rev 16:10 – the sun
represents the 1NC Saints in heaven who have their spirits darkened by
what has happened to their fellow slaves in TCC3 knowing that they are
in danger of ending up in Gehenna if they don’t repent], and the
whole moon [the whole church of the JW’s who
are now under Satan’s authority] became as blood
[they are all judicially dead because they are
unclean in the flesh due to their oppressors in the WT],
CLV Re 6:13 and the
stars of heaven [1NC
and 2NC Saints]
fall on the earth as a fig tree is casting its shriveled figs
[no water – dried
up], quaking
under a
great wind [losing
their spirit baptism for worshipping the beast and having been defiled
in the flesh].
CLV Re 6:14 And heaven recoils as a
scroll rolling up [this is the scroll of life
(JAC) – no one is able to enter it anymore as the angels have already
sanctified everyone who can be (as of 2003) – Rev 6:14, 7:3, and
17:8], and every mountain and island was moved out of its
place [so this affected the JW’s world wide and
perhaps every religion on the planet is affected by these events].
CLV Re 6:16 And they
[the saints that have fallen] are saying
to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face
of Him Who is sitting on the throne [Jehovah],
and from the indignation of the Lambkin [Jesus
whom they pierced],
CLV Re 6:17 for the
great day of Their
[the saints who fell]
indignation came, and who
is able
to stand
[good question – try those
who repent and join FDS4 – the two prophet’s stand up after 1263 days of
prophesying and being killed – Pentecost when Peter stands up with the
eleven]?" |
CLV Re 3:7 "And to the messenger of the
ecclesia in Philadelphia
[Gordon] write: "Now this is saying the True, the Holy One, Who
has the key of David, and Who is opening and not one shall be locking,
and locking and not one shall be opening:
CLV Re 3:8 "I am aware of your acts. Lo!
Before you have I granted an open door which not one is able to lock it,
that you have a little power, and you keep My word and you do not disown
My name [as mediator of the 2NC – The LW’s know
that Jesus is a God to be worshipped and so do not disown His name like
the WT did in 1954].
CLV Re 3:9 Lo! I have granted to those
out of the synagogue of Satan [the JW’s as a
whole], (who are saying that they themselves are Jews, and are
not, but are lying)--Lo! I shall be making them that they will be
arriving and worshiping, before your feet, and they may know that I'
love you [this will occur after the two
witnesses stand up and are exposed as His son’s].
CLV Re 3:10 Seeing that you keep the word
of My endurance, I', also, will be keeping you out of the hour of trial
which is about to be coming on the whole inhabited earth to try those
dwelling on the earth [the “inhabited earth”
actually being the world].
CLV Re 3:11 I am coming swiftly! Hold
what you have, that no one may be taking your crown.
CLV Re 3:12 "The one who is conquering,
him will I be making a pillar in the temple of My God, and he may be
coming out nevermore, and I will be writing on him the name of My God,
and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which is
descending out of heaven from My God, and My new name.
CLV Re 3:13 Who has an ear, let him hear
what the spirit is saying to the ecclesia’s."' |
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CLV Re 7:1 And
after this [this is
a separate vision which provides continuity to the events]
I perceived four
messengers standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four
winds of the earth, that the wind may not be blowing on
the land, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
CLV Re 7:2 And I
perceived another messenger ascending from the orient,
having the seal of the living God. And he cries with a
loud voice to the four messengers to whom it was given for
them to injure the land and the sea,
CLV Re 7:3 saying,
"You shall not be injuring the land, nor yet the sea, nor
yet the trees, until we should be sealing the slaves of our God on
their foreheads
[this sealing ends from a heavenly standpoint during the time of the
sixth seal since the scroll has been rolled up for entrance
into the JAC – The One who knows from the beginning what the end will be
has spoken]."
CLV Re 7:4 And I
hear the number of those sealed: a hundred forty-four thousand.
Sealed
out of every tribe
of the sons of Israel are:
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space!] |
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CLV Re 8:1 And when
It [the lambkin –
Jesus] opens the
seventh seal, a hush occurred
in heaven as it
were half an hour
[since this is tied to the
Laodicean messenger the hush may be a waiting period to see what he does
after joining the LW’s].
CLV Re 8:2 And I
perceived the seven messengers who stand before God
[three from FDS1 (Peter,
James, plus one other) and four from FDS4 (Russell, Rutherford, Knorr,
and Franz) who are now residing in heaven],
and seven trumpets were given to them.
CLV Re 8:3 And
another messenger came and was standing at the altar, having
a golden thurible. And much incense was given him that he shall
be imparting to the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar
before the throne.
CLV Re 8:4 And the
fumes of the incense with the prayers of the saints
ascended out of the messenger's hand before God.
CLV Re 8:5 And the
messenger has taken the thurible, and he crams it with the fire of the
altar and casts it into the earth. And thunders and voices and
lightning’s and an earthquake occurred.
CLV Re 8:6 And the
seven messengers who have the seven trumpets make themselves
ready that they should be trumpeting.
So in essence if this
understanding is correct, then we are already in the seventh seal and
much of what is to occur, has already occurred with regard to the
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CLV Re 3:14 "And to the messenger of the
ecclesia in Laodicea [the
unknown messenger] write: `Now this is saying the Amen, the
Faithful and True Witness, and God's Creative Original:
CLV Re 3:15 "I am aware of your acts,
that neither cool are you nor zealous! Would that you were cool or
zealous!
CLV Re 3:16 Thus, seeing that you are
indifferent, and are neither zealous nor cool, I am about to spew you
out of My mouth [not that He “will” but is
“about to”. Jesus mouth is FDS4 and the Laodicean messenger who carries
a LW baptism was certainly indifferent to this church and in fact struck
out in his own way].
CLV Re 3:17 Seeing that you are saying
that Rich am I and Rich have I become, and of nothing have I need
[for he believes that he completed his baptism
and is now sealed in Holy Spirit]! and you are not aware that
you are wretched and forlorn and poor and blind and naked
[he did not know that he was not yet sealed in
the spirit at the time he went back into TCC3],
CLV Re 3:18 I am advising you to buy of
Me gold refined by the fire [convince those in
TCC3 to listen to Jesus’ voice and be baptized into FDS4], that
you should be rich, and white garments, that you may be clothed and the
shame of your nakedness may not be made manifest, and eye-salve to
anoint your eyes, that you may be observing
[which he has not yet done but hopefully will do quickly].
CLV Re 3:19 "Whosoever I may be fond of,
I am exposing and disciplining. Be
zealous, then, and repent!
CLV Re 3:20 Lo! I stand at the door and
am knocking. If ever anyone should be hearing My voice and opening the
door, I will also be coming into toward him and dining with him, and he
with Me.
CLV Re 3:22 ‘Who has an ear, let him hear
what the spirit is saying to the ecclesia’s." |
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